Okay as promised, this is taken from a hand that I witnessed at my table during the Boomtown Casino weekly tournament last night. Since I know the cards and how it played, I present it to you. BTW, pretend that you performed the action the player you are playing with did and decide on each question based on the new information.
Your almost an hour through the tournament. You’ve been able to win some pots and you have approximately $1400 in chips in front of you from a starting chip count of $1000. Several players at your table have been knocked out and your now 7 handed.
The blinds are $50/$100. The table is relatively tight and no one seems to bet unless they have something. You are in Middle Position with A
J. Two players fold to you.
Loading …You actually call.
The button calls as does the SB. The BB checks The pot is $400.
The flop comes Q
8 4
Loading …You actually bet $900 leaving you with $400. The button re-raises all-in. Everyone folds.
Loading …You actually call. The button flips over K 3.
You’re drawing dead and you’re out.
This is horrible play all the way around and I’ll discuss why I feel that way in the comments.
3 responses so far ↓
David // Dec 6, 2007 at 8:45 pm
This is a good example of zigging when you should be zagging. Everything this guy did seemed to be in reverse.
7-1: A raise of $400 or so is the right play here. AJs is not a made hand… there are a lot of ways for you to miss this hand, so you need to eliminate players who could catch a marginal hand that could beat you after the flop. If you don’t get any action and you just take the blinds, consider it a win and move on. There’s no telling where you will be after the flop.
7-2: Well… this was a HORRIBLE flop for you… You missed it completely and there is three to a flush on the board. CHECK! If someone bets, FOLD!
7-3: Obviously you’re beaten. You’ve lost most of your chips… even if you are pot committed now, I think you should fold. You can’t even really beat a bluff here, since you only have ace high. FOLD!
James // Jan 29, 2008 at 4:11 pm
Did i miss read it or did you say that he bet $900 to win a $400 pot?? That was horrible if that is what happened. There is nothing wrong with taking a shot at the pot with 3 to a flush on the board because the odds of flopping a flush are something like 1 in 115. But it could of been done by betting 2/3 rd of the pot not over betting. But I agree with you in that if everyone folds to you in middle position with AJ suited you should definietly pop it 3 to 4 x’s the big blind. If that would of happened he would of proabably taken the pot right there.
Themofro // Mar 26, 2008 at 8:33 pm
Part 1 You have a strong hand in middle position with all folds to you, at a tight table, great situation! Make a reasonable raise 3-5x the BB and see what happens, you’re perfectly happy with taking down the pot here, and if not you have a legitimate hand.
Part 2 Well since you didn’t raise there are three players left. The three diamonds are of course scary, particularly as you don’t have one. However, the odds are good that no one has a made flush although there’s probably a draw or two out there. I think you should make a probe bet of about 250-300, that’s not quite giving your opponents the right odds to call with a flush draw. This kind of bet here has a good chance of taking down the pot right here (because odds are no one has a made flush and they’ll probably fold a pair as well), however if your opponent calls or raises then your done with the hand as he’ll have a flush almost always.
Part 3 Well the huge over bet was absolutely terrible, now you’re pot invested into a bad pot. If your opponent was very aggressive you should call here as he could be bluffing and you’re getting monster odds, but against a tight player like this you have to fold your hand.
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